v.important :Acommon error

[مستر عيد الشبيني]

for teachers : I noticed that when explaining :reported speech some try to write
will changes to would
and that`s right
but the common mistake is :
shall changes to should
and that`s wrong
the right is : shall changes to would
that`s all
thanks

[محب الخطاب]

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[مستر عيد الشبيني]

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[teefa2004]

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for teachers : I noticed that when explaining :reported speech some try to write
will changes to would
and that`s right
but the common mistake is :
shall changes to should
and that`s wrong
the right is : shall changes to would
that`s all
thanks

sorry Mr Eid , but i don't agree with you ;
shall can be changed to should and would;
shall >>> would (future)
" we shall see Ali next week"
she said that they would see Ali the following week.
-*-*-*-*
shall >> should (ask for advice)
"what shall we give her as a gift?"
They wondered what they should give her as a gift.

that's all
an' thanks

[مستر عيد الشبيني]

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Dear Mr. teefa thanks for your reply
Note that :
When I said (shall changes to should ) I mean in genral it is more suitable here in the prep stage , but if you want the details it is as follow :
I/we shall/should 'I/we shall' normally becomes he/she/they would in reported speech:
'I shall be 21 tomorrow,' said Bill = Bill said he would be 21 the following day.
But if the sentence is reported by the original speaker can become either I/we should or I/we would. Would is common.


Speculations or requests for information about a future event

'Shall I ever see them again?' he wondered.
'When shall I know the result of the test?' she asked.
These follow the ordinary rule about shall/will. Speculations are usually introduced by wonder:
He wondered if he would ever see them again.
She asked when she would know the result of the test.
Requests for instructions or advice:

'What shall I do with it?' = 'Tell me what to do with it. ' These are expressed in indirect speech by ask, inquire etc., with should or the be + infinitive construction. Requests for advice are normally reported by should:
'Shall we Post it, sir?' he said ;= He asked the customer if they were to Post/if they should Post it.
'What shall I say, mother?' she said = She asked her mother what she should say. (request for advice) When a choice is required we normally use whether in indirect speech.
whether + infinitive is sometimes possible
'Shall I lock the car or leave it unlocked?' he said = He asked whether he should/was to lock the car or leave it unlocked or He asked whether to lock the car etc.

Offers:
'Shall I bring you some tea?' could be reported He offered to bring me some tea.
Note that 'Would you like me to bring you some tea?' and 'I'll bring you some tea if you like' could also be reported by offer.

Suggestions:
'Shall we meet at the theatre?' could be reported He suggested meeting at the theatre.
Suggestions:
'Shall we meet at the theatre?' could be reported He suggested meeting at the theatre.
Questions beginning will you/would you/could you?
These may be ordinary questions, but may also be requests, invitations, or, very occasionally, commands:
He said, 'Will you be there tomorrow?' (ordinary question) = He asked if she would be there the next day.
'Will you stand still!' he shouted = He shouted at me to stand still or He told/ordered me to stand still.
'Would you like to live in New York?' he asked = He asked if I would like to live in New York.
'Will/Would you file these letters, Please?' he said = He asked/told me to file the letters[/LEF

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[teefa2004]

thank you very much Mr Eid

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