رجاء" الانتباه

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

صفحة 53 بقصة سجين زندا الفصل السادس

when Fritz asked if
we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed.

اعتقد ان he

يجب ان تستبدل ب I

عائدة على ردولف
او we

لتعود على ردولف وصحبته

هل معى حق؟

[Ayman M.Ebrahim]

أعتقد ان كلامك تمام مستر أحمد
تقبل الله منك هذا المجهود

[Essam ABDOU]

Sorry sirs,
HE is correct. It refers to Fritz von Tarlenheim. His relative (an uncle) owns the country house and that`s why he (Fritz) was asked if they could use it (to be near the real king`s prison in the castle of Zenda in a plan to save him) and he (Fritz) agreed.

Best Regards

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU

Sorry sirs,
HE is correct. It refers to Fritz von Tarlenheim. His relative (an uncle) owns the country house and that`s why he (Fritz) was asked if they could use it (to be near the real king`s prison in the castle of Zenda in a plan to save him) and he (Fritz) agreed.

Best Regards

لى ملحوظتين على الكلام يا مستر عصام:
1- ان الجملة الموجوده فى النص مش مجهول بل معلوم لذلك نسبتها الى فريتز
2- لم يعط النص اهتماما ولو جملة قالها صاحب المنزل

وطبعا حضرتك عارف ان احنا مطالبين بنص المدرسة وليس النص العالمى و حضرتك ذكرت فى ردك الاتى


Fritz was asked if they could use it
مع ان النص فى كتاب المدرسة جابها معلوم
when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip

شكرا لك وننتظر راى باقى الزملاء وخاصة الاستاذ عصام وهبه

[Essam ABDOU]

You`re right about the active - I read it 'was asked'

In that case "He" is also correct and it refers to Fritz`s relative, not Rudolf

Best Regards

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU

You`re right about the active - I read it 'was asked'

In that case "He" is also correct and it refers to Fritz`s relative, not Rudolf

Best Regards

يا مستر عصام عايز دليل واحد من كتاب المدرسة يدل انه he

صح هذكرك بالفقرة كلها لتحللها مرة اخرى ومعك زملائنا الاعزاء بالمنتدى

About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to
where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the
hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a
relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so when Fritz asked if
we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU

You`re right about the active - I read it 'was asked'

In that case "He" is also correct and it refers to Fritz`s relative, not Rudolf

Best Regards

اسمحلى يا مستر عصام مفيش دليل كده
وهذكر حضرتك بالفقره كامله مع التركيز والربط بينها وبين الجمله

About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to
where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the
hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a
relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so[B] when Fritz asked if
we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed[/B

عايزين راى باقى زملائنا

[Essam ABDOU]

Firstly, I didn`t look at any other edition in dealing with these sentences.
Secondly: step by step
- Who has a country house?
- Who doesn`t often visit the house?
- Who would Fritz ask to take permission?
- Who agreed?
The answer to all these questions is HE = Fritz`s relative

If still not convinced,
What does He in "He does not often visit the house" refer to?
Surely to the nearest person, relative of Fritz - not Fritz himself
What does He in "He happily agreed" refer to?
Also, the answer to both questions is HE = Fritz`s relative

Best Regards

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة essam abdou

firstly, i didn`t look at any other edition in dealing with these sentences.
secondly: Step by step
- who has a country house?
- who doesn`t often visit the house?
- who would fritz ask to take permission?
- who agreed?
the answer to all these questions is he = fritz`s relative

if still not convinced,
what does he in "he does not often visit the house" refer to?
surely to the nearest person, relative of fritz - not fritz himself
what does he in "he happily agreed" refer to?
also, the answer to both questions is he = fritz`s relative

best regards

رايك اتغير يا مستر عصام انت قلت فى البداية انه فريتز بعد كده دلوقتى بتقول قريبه ودى بس هى المقنعه
بس لى تعقيب برده على كاتب القصة ولو حد تانى من الناس اللى قرء بتانى النص يلاحظها الفقرة دى لما تم اختصارها بشكلها الحالى احدثت هذا الجدل ---صح

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

بفضل من الله تم الانتهاء من المناقشة واشكر الاستاذ عصام عبده عليها جدا ونتيجتها (لكى تعم الفائدة) هى

ان الفقرة الاتية

About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to
where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the
hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a
relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so when Fritz asked if
we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed.

[B][COLOR="Pink"]الضمير he هنا يعود على قريب فريتز الذى يملك المنزل

[COLOR="DarkRed"]]

[Essam ABDOU]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr.ahmedabdelwahed

بفضل من الله تم الانتهاء من المناقشة واشكر الاستاذ عصام عبده عليها جدا ونتيجتها (لكى تعم الفائدة) هى

ان الفقرة الاتية

About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to
where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the
hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a
relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so when Fritz asked if
we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed.

[B][COLOR="Pink"]الضمير he هنا يعود على قريب فريتز الذى يملك المنزل

[COLOR="DarkRed"]]

Dear Mr. Ahmed,
Thank you for the discussion.
When I said "you`re right", it meant I was wrong. I read it in the passive at first.

Anyway, what we miss are discussions like these based on mutual respect, with knowledge and also competition. We need to revive these real discussions which were a common feature of this forum a few years ago. We also need EVERYONE to participate. Have a blessed Friday!

Best Regards

[mr.ahmedabdelwahed]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU

Dear Mr. Ahmed,
Thank you for the discussion.
When I said "you`re right", it meant I was wrong. I read it in the passive at first.

Anyway, what we miss are discussions like these based on mutual respect, with knowledge and also competition. We need to revive these real discussions which were a common feature of this forum a few years ago. We also need EVERYONE to participate. Have a blessed Friday!

Best Regards

My dear friend, Mr.Essam

May Allah bless you and never barred from your knowledge and concern