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[مستر سعيد دراهم]

فعلا انا وجدت كلام مستر ممدوح صح والكتاب في ايدي الان
It's I who made this pasta, not my mother.
لوجود الـ relative clause

[مستر/ عصام الجاويش]

جزاكم الله خيرا مستر ممدوح انا طبعا متأكد فى الامتحان مش ممكن حاجه زى دى تيجى لان الموضوع خلافى والاراء قيه منوعه ولكننا نتناقش للمعرفه وهذا راى اخر لمدرس بريطانى عندما ارفقت رد موقع Disputed English
Grammar
Hello Essam,


There is no right answer to your question: the usage is disputed, as your article suggests.

However, it is only a disputed usage to the very small number of native speakers who trouble themselves about such things. The greater number of the remainder would say "it's me".

Furthermore, although native speakers sometimes say "it is I", "It's I" is very unusual. After "It's", you would usually find "me".

Best wishes,

MrP

[samir Meabed]

Hello Mr Esam
me is the correct answer

[ابو بيشو]

وماذا عن
But if the pronoun is followed by a clause , we use the subject forms:
Blame Bill. It was he who chose this colour.

[مستر/ عصام الجاويش]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ابو بيشو

وماذا عن
but if the pronoun is followed by a clause , we use the subject forms:
blame bill. It was he who chose this colour.

انا عن نفسى مقتنع يامستر ممدوح باجابه كتاب practical لكن المشكله فى نظرى الكتاب الخارجى نفسه يدخلنا فى مسأله خلافيه . والامتحان كما تعلم يأتى واضح جدا وليس فيه غموض وانا متأكد ان صاحب الكتاب الخارجى عندما يضع سؤال ينقله من اى مكان دون مراعاه ان هناك امور خلافيه فى الجرامر نفسه والمراجع نفسها تختلف كما فى هذا السؤال وغيره لذلك احسن الاستاذ عصام وهبه صنعا عندما استغنى عن العمل من الكتب الخارجيه _ مع اعترافنا ان اصحابها يبذلون جهد غير عادى فى اعدادها ولكن البعض يحدث بلبله للطالب هل رأيت كتاب الشرح senior غريب جدا وياخذ الطالب بعيدا عن الامتحان ولذلك صاحب الكتاب نفسه يعيد النظر فى كتابه عند المراجعه ويرجع للاصل وهو كتاب المدرسه وكتاب الـworkbook

[ابو بيشو]

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“It Is I” Versus “It Is Me”




Grammar Girl here, or actually for this episode I should say, “'Tis I, Grammar Girl, here to help you understand when to use the words I and me.”.
So this week, Jodie wanted to know which is correct: It is I or It is me. She says that when she answers the phone and the person asks, "Is Jodie there?" she usually responds by saying, "This is she." But one of her friends says this is incorrect, and now they have a $5 bet on the question.

Wow! Ryan, David, Jane, and Iljitsch also asked this question, but they don't have money riding on the answer.

The short answer is that Jodie wins. The traditional grammar rule states when a pronoun follows a linking verb, such as is, it should be in the subject case. That means it is correct to say, “It is I,” and “It was he who dropped the phone in shock when Jodie answered, 'This is she.'”

Linking verbs are words like is, was, were, appear, and seem, which don't describe an action so much as describe a state of being. When pronouns follow these non-action verbs, you use the subject pronouns such as I, she, he, they, and we.

Here are some more correct examples:

Who called Jodie? It was he.
Who told you about it? It was I.
Who had the phone conversation? It must have been they.
Who cares? It is we.

Now the problem is that 90 percent of you are almost certainly thinking, “Well, that all sounds really weird. Is she serious?”

Well, yes, I'm serious, and that is the traditional rule, but fortunately most grammarians forgive you for not following the rule. In her aptly titled book Woe Is I, Patricia O'Connor notes that almost everyone says, “It is me,” and that the “It is I” construction is almost extinct (1). Most other grammarians agree that unless you're answering the phone for the English department at the University of Chicago or responding to a Supreme Court judge, it's OK to use what sounds right and therefore, “That's me” is an acceptable answer (2, 3, 4, 5). So even though Jodie is technically correct, it would probably be more fair for her and her friend to take the $5 and go get a cold beverage together.

On a related note, a listener named Jane wanted to know whether it is correct to say, “Rather you than me,” or “Rather you than I,” and the answer is similar to the “it is I” situation.

Traditional grammar rules state that you use the subject pronoun, I, after words such as than and as. So the correct answer is that when Jane's friends are in trouble, she can say, “Rather you than I.” On the other hand, using the object pronoun, me, is so common that most grammarians also accept “Rather you than me.”

I hate it when language is in flux like this because it's easy to get confused. But a lot of people have asked me these questions, and in the end, I believe it's best to know the traditional rules and then if you decide to break them you can do so knowingly and with conviction.

Last weekend I went to the Portable Media Expo in California and met a great bunch of other podcasters. It was a blast and if you ever get the chance to attend, you should go. We're having a smaller free shindig in Phoenix in early November called Podcamp Arizona and I'll put a link in the blog for people who are interested.
Here's another bonus: I created a quiz on Facebook to go with this episode. You have to become my Facebook friend, but then you can take the quiz and see how much you've learned. It's pretty easy to do, so if people take the quiz, I'll keep making them for each episode.
You can find a transcript of this podcast, my contact information, and all the other great Quick and Dirty Tips podcasts at quickanddirtytips.com. Also, I'm working on a new, more informal podcast called “Behind the Grammar,” which will also be up on the website, probably just embedded in this show's transcript for now.


So until next time, it is I, Grammar Girl, who thank you for listening.

References

1. O'Connor, P. Woe Is I. New York: Penguin Putnam, 1996, p. 10.
2. Straus, J. The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation. Ninth Edition. Mill Valley: Jane Straus, 2006, p. 17.
3. Brians, P. Common Errors in English Usage. Wilsonville: William, James & Co, 2003. p.132.
4. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, Springfield: Merriam-Webster, 1994, p. 628.
5. HiDuke, J. “Frequently Asked Questions.” Dr. Grammar Website, 2001, http://www.drgrammar.org/faqs/#73 (accessed October 9, 2007).

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