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Elon welcome to uh Israel uh you've been
here before yes this is a visit unlike anyone because you started it out uh in the communities right next to Gaza where the horrendous Massacre took place U we went there together and I yeah and then I showed you a a short film of some of the horrors and I I wonder if you can give you some of your impressions of what you saw I it was jarring to see the scene of the massacre or one of the scenes of the massacres um as well as to see the short film afterwards uh that uh showed a you know more of of innocent people getting killed I was troubling in that movie especially to see the joy experienced by the people that were killing innocent civilians including kids and you know babies and defenseless people essentially so um you know it's it's one thing if obviously if civilians die accidentally um but if it's another thing to Revel in the joy of killing civilians that's not you know that's frankly that's evil it's it's really a a manifestation of a death cult that's what Kamas is it's a it's a death cult uh and they they glorifying Gore I mean some of the things that we saw are children being murdered in front of their parents parents being murdered in front of their children uh mothers who hid their the little boys in a laundromat in an oven uh or in a hidden attic and these monsters found the attic and you can imagine what these people felt these little boys felt like in a grim fairy tale the monsters coming at you and they killed them and burned them they beheaded women they beheaded men they tied a woman next to to a tree uh and raped her repeatedly and then murdered her they um shot uh at uh people in a nature Festival Music Festival yeah killed hundreds you saw the pictures that it's just horrible I mean just killed people um women yes um I mean the bottle is often made that uh well you know but but you know Israel has killed civilians you know also in Gaza but the there is an important difference here which is that Israel tries to avoid killing civilians doing everything he can to to avoid killing civilians and you know there's there's there's not sort of Joy expressed at killing well it's it's it's regret first of all every civilian casualty is is a tragedy and we try to minimize them but what what is happening here is that Hamas is essentially committing a double War crime the first war crime is to deliberately Target civilians MH uh and not only target them but mutilate them rape them behead them burn them uh the second war crime is to deliberately hide behind civilians which is what they're doing in Gaza so they're not an army and bases or out in field Maneuvers they're implanting themselves in residential areas in schools and hospitals the hospitals are the command centers we found tunnels there with with the military equipment with guns with ammo uh so what do you do against an enemy of this kind well uh the one thing you cannot do is give immunity to the terrorists because they're hiding among civilians because if you give them immunity everybody says they shouldn't be doing this but effectively nobody's willing to take the action to make sure that this is not an effective tactic because if it is it'll repeat itself again and again and again by the way Kamas says we're going to do it again and again but it's not only against Israel that they'll do it this will spread very quickly throughout the Middle East and Peril the entire region from there they'll go to Europe and from there they'll also go elsewhere to America whom they call the great Satan we're just a little sat America is the great Satan America is the great Satan and this is an Iranian AIS yes yes yes it's Iran theis andas it's all part of that same AIS that goes against Israel the United States uh free civilization and the modern Arab states were all on one side they're on the other side so how do you fight it well let's see you know the people who are protesting and what Israel is doing do not take into account the fact that Israel asked uh we called on the Palestinian population to leave the zone of fighting okay they wanted to leave guess who stopped them at gunpoint Hamas okay we broke that and created a a cordon a safe Corridor that they could leave to the southern part of the Gaza Strip where no fighting was taking place yes and guess who fired on the safe Gordon that we uh safe Corridor Kamas so it's not Israel that's preventing the civilians from leaving the war zone it's Hamas it's not Israel that is shooting at civilians who want to escape it's Hamas uh but we shouldn't give them the ability to U you know to escape responsibility which is what all these demonstrations are happening you know the example I'll give Hitler does this horrible you know these horrible crimes he perpetrates the Holocaust M uh yeah the Allies strike back they invade Normy the Germans hold themselves up in the German cities nobody said well don't attack uh the the vermar the German Army the Nazi army because you have civilians there in fact that's exactly what the Allies did through the cities of France and the cities of Germany and many many many civilians were killed uh I don't know what history would be like if you had uh you know the kind of mass communications that we have today in protests would have been launched against the Allies on behalf yeah of the Nazis because because as the German chancellor who visited Israel and saw these these Horrors he said Kamas are the new Nazis Kamas are the new Nazis and people are demonstrating either out of ignorance or out of malevolence they're protesting yeah for the wrong side I mean it is it was troubling to see massive protests in almost every major city um in favor of Hamas or well they'll generally characterize it as sort of a free Palestine movement um and I and I think you know one can generally agree that we want the you know a good future for Palestinians um and we want to you know I mean the the challenge is really how do you you know get get rid of the ones who are hell vents on murdering Jewish people um while you know minimizing civilian casualties and then ultimately stopping the um the the the sort of propaganda that is convincing people to engage in um you know Murder so that at the end of the day that that's really essential is is to figure out okay what how are they being trained to have these to believe that murdering and having Joy at the death of civilians is a good thing um and to stop that training well I think you you hit the nail on the head um because you have we have a first a mission to destroy Kamas nothing's going to stop that because if you want peace destroy Kamas if you want want security destroy Hamas if you want a better life for the Palestinians in Gaza who've been hijacked uh by Hamas destroy Hamas U all of that is a precursor to the question that you asked you first have to get rid of the poisonous regime uh as you did in Germany as you did in Japan in World War II these were two there's no choice there's no choice that's a prerequisite there's no but but then look at what happened I mean what you had in Germany was den nification and what you had in Japan under uh uh Douglas MacArthur was a cultural uh Reformation uh and Japan that you visit today is so different from Japan of the 1930s yeah Germany that you visit today is so different from Germany of the 1930s well is that possible in the Arab world and I categorically say of course it is because we've seen it already in two places we've seen it in the Gulf States and we see that when you visit Dubai or when you visit Abu Dhabi or when you visit Bahrain you see something entirely different sure there was in fact a cultural change there uh and let me say that that same thing is in my opinion happening uh to a considerable extent in Saudi Arabia the deradicalization of uh these Muslim countries these Arab countries is some of it already took place some of it is taking place yeah but there's another country with a substantial Arab minority where that is already taking place and that's called Israel 20% of our citizens are Arabs most of them Muslim right uh they serve on you know in high places in the academy and the Supreme Court in the knesset and so on and I'm not saying that there are there isn't uh some radicalism there but mostly there isn't and in fact they're integrated into the society so we have to do the same think we have to demilitarize Gaza after the the destruction of Hamas and we have to deradicalize Gaza and that will take some time especially work on the mosques and on the schools that's where children are you know embi uh their values and then we have to also rebuild Gaza and I hope to have our Arab friends uh help in that context yeah and and you know um I'd like to help as well so I think it's it's it's important to parap fness uh in taking out the the terrorists those who wish or intent on motor and then at the same time to then help uh those who remain which is also what happened in Germany and Japan exactly right um you know it's it's interesting because uh this quite a rare thing in history um usually the Victor uh pillages the you know the loser um and uh and uh um if you look at after World War I you know the Treaty of asai was a big mistake um and it created immense bitterness in Germany and it's part of what led to World War II and then World War II that people realized listen we we actually need to rebuild the economies and instead of uh punishing them and so you know you had the rebuilding of Japan rebuilding of of Germany and much of Europe and um and then we've we've had peace and prosperity for a long time I think that this is possible but it has that uh small small uh prerequisite I'm saying small and I don't really mean small it's a big job of getting rid of Kamas which we will and and remember that what Israel suffered on this ignominious day of October 7th was proportionately like 2911 so you know when people make a ceasefire sure and Kamas says well you know if we're still around we're going to do it again and again and again that's a direct quote yes okay so would you would you make you you don't need to read between the lines you just read the lines they're they're they're quite explicit about it yes so obviously we can't do that anymore than uh America would make a ceasefire with al- Qaeda after 911 yeah and this is 2911 uh so so they have to go and they will go I'm talking about combatants I'm talking about terrorists I'm talking about terrorist Chieftains uh but then I think we can build a different future with the Palestinians and and the thing that I'm I have to also uh really respond to is these demonstrations against Israel which is the only force that is taking a measures to prevent civilian casualties we're trying to do everything that we can including entering uh into Gaza humanitarian help uh but we have mass demonstrations where were these demonstrations when over a million Arabs and Muslims were killed in Syria in Yemen many of them starving to death those who didn't die in explosions and in battle where were the demonstrations in London in Paris in San Francisco in Washington where are they and the answer is they don't care about the Palestinians right they hate Israel and they hate Israel because they hate America and they say so they say they say from the river free Palestine from The River To The Sea right you know what the river to the Sea means yes the the river not a river it's a creek it's called the Jordan River okay the sea is the Mediterranean in between is Israel right all of 50 miles wide when they say free Palestine from The River To The Sea they say destroy Israel yeah so they're demonstrating for the destruction of Israel on behalf of people who committed the worst savagery perpetrated on the Jewish people since the holoc C that is a moral collapse uh and uh it's understandable that people will have concern for civilian casualties because we do as well that I understand it's inconceivable and incomprehensible that people will actually protest on behalf of these murderers these deliberate killers of babies uh and not uh you know they're not accidentally uh killing these people we went into these Cottages today we saw where these killers came in and shot cribs yes shot families murdered bullet casings in in the crib bullet casings in the crib exactly it's just shocking uh and and so one has to understand in every legitimate War there what you said before The Accidental uh civilian casualties that accompany any legitimate military action that's often happened happened to the Allies unid it's unavoidable unfortunately you try to minimize it but what these terrorists Hamas terrorists did is deliberately cross the line they were out there to Massacre murder civilians on mass and let me tell you Schultz the chancellor of Germany called him when he visited Israel he called him the new Nazis called Kamas the new Nazis I'll tell you what the difference between the original Nazis and the new Nazis is capability if they had the capability oh yes if they wen't thrown back by brave soldiers who flooded the lines and brave civilians who fought with their fingernails uh they would have killed every last one of us yeah I agree so you know I what what do you do to correct these uh these lies in these distortions well one tell the truth have the conversation we're having today but I I think there's also a built-in there's a built-in weakness in u Western High higher education it's not new uh in 1933 shortly a few days after the rise of Hitler the Oxford Student Union uh had a debate uh and the debate was should uh that generation fight for king and country and they resolved two to one under no circumstances to fight for king and country well they soon learned differently they couldn't if they tolerated this kind of aggression that Germany was perpetrating and the barbarism it soon spread to Britain it soon spread to the entire world if we tolerate this kind of barbarism that Hamas perpetrated on on Israel by the way on Jews and Arabs Alik in Israel Arab citizens beduins uh they spoke to me these bedan Fighters Arab fighters in the in the Israeli Defense Force one of them said you know I woke up on that day rushed to the line and the first thing I saw he said the first thing I saw was a corpse of a woman a headless corpse of a woman and he said to me then I knew exactly what we were fighting we is Arabs and Jews in Israel fighting these monsters so I think that once we recognize that we have to unite all the forces of civilization against this new barbarism this Savage medievalism that is trying to stop a better future for all of us and we can achieve this future I think if we beat Hamas we can go back to peace with Saudi Arabia I think we can expand the circle of Peace beyond anything imaginable we can build rebuild Gaza we can build development projects that will defy the imagination of the world but first we have to win it's like against the Nazis it's like against al Qaeda it's like against uh Isis first you have to win yeah I I I think that makes perfect sense um the those who are in tented motor must must be neutralized uh then uh the the propaganda must stop um that is training people to be Motors in the future and then and then and then making uh Gaza prosperous and if if if if that happens I think we'll be a good future well I hope you'll be involved in it and I'd love to help and the fact that you came here I think speak volumes speaks volumes of your uh your commitment to try to secure a better future um I you know I wish we had more time the last time we spoke we spoke about AI yeah and I think even here in this short visit you had a glimpse of the great talents that are yeah available here tremendous talent in Israel and but it's talent that serves the world uh it's h you know all these things you you look at your iPhone you know a good part of it was made here you use ways was made here sure you eat a cherry tomato was made here that's the that's the positive part of the future that we have begun to build and we'll resume building after this uh after we defeat Kamas because and and the last thing I say is I've never seen the people of Israel Elon so United you know we we have a an opportunity to quarrel among ourselves our politics are famous for it and yet here everyone United you know everyone United I formed a Unity government uh an emergency Unity government and the people and the it's not merely the soldiers it's the families even families of soldiers who on the front line and they say finish the job so we can have a better future yeah well I hope uh for a better future for here and for the world thank you and thank you for coming here yeah thank you very me - Generated with https://kome.ai |
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